Egad. This is the kind of revelation the anti-Semites have field day with. “Silly anti-semites! How can there be a Jewish conspiracy if Jews are divided into communists and capitalists?!” Whelp.
So? the FBI has been hunting card-carriers since the get-go.
See "Red Hunting in the Promised Land" by Joel Kovel.
The "hunt" is far more like a religious mania than a measure to protect "American Values", which, if they are all they are cracked up to be, we wouldn't worry about communists because their superiority (American Values) would be immediately evident to all.
Communists are duplicitous. They bore into non-communist Leftist organizations or establish front organizations. Social democrats like Sidney Hook knew this and perceived them as a potential threat at the time. This threat included espionage. We can see all this with the woke movement. Many anti-woke folks can see the “superiority of American values” but we also see that many Leftist elites have been captured by this ideology because the centrists were asleep at the wheel (or cowardly).
What kind? Stalinists, Maoists, or the honest citizens brought before the HUAC by McCarthy? I'd advise to stop using the word since its meaning has been lost in the mist of the good-guys vs. bad-guys Weltanschauung.
“What kind? Stalinists, Maoists, or the honest citizens brought before the HUAC by McCarthy? I'd advise to stop using the word since its meaning has been lost in the mist of the good-guys vs. bad-guys Weltanschauung.”
McCarthy wasn’t part of HUAC. Also, many of the “honest citizens” you refer to, like the Hollywood Ten, were Stalinists and were required to lie about their affiliations by the CPUSA/Moscow. Some members of the Ten admitted all this later when they had left the party. See _Red Star Over Hollywood_ by ex-commie Ron Radosh.
I propose that from now on anytime Joseph McCarthy is brought up we should think how we would feel if the question he was asking were instead, 'Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Nazi Party?'
Communism has killed more people and destroyed more of the world than fascism ever did yet it remains fashionable and people make excuses for it.
Well to be fair Wagner only goes to warzones. Blinken and Nuland and the whole neocon crew brings death, destruction and exploitation to previously peaceful locales. Not particularly trying to defend Wagner or paint them in rosy colors but they go to warzones to fight. They don't pretend to be humanitarians bringing the light of civilization and wonderfulness and then stir up coups and such.
What, the kind of communists that propose "ownership of the means of production by the workers"?
You won't convince me the Sacklers are of that flavor!
So what kind of communists are you talking about?
You know, historically whenever a government allows a great many of their citizens to live in poverty, destitute and with little hope of escape, those citizens will seek out whatever relieves their day to day suffering and perceptions of meaninglessness. Even when the "whatever" is self-destructive such as alcohol, opiates, ...
The Sacklers did over-promote their product, this is the nature of capitalism. But the people who I would have punished are the neoliberal geniuses who made of blue-collar middle America a hollowed-out shell of its former industrial strength and prosperity.
“Hollowed out” is hyperbole. Americans are far richer now than in the 1970s. Neoliberalism is far superior to mercantilism and the sclerotic welfare state.
They were, as I write in the post, card carrying members of the Communist Party of America, Kensington Branch in Brooklyn.
Egad. This is the kind of revelation the anti-Semites have field day with. “Silly anti-semites! How can there be a Jewish conspiracy if Jews are divided into communists and capitalists?!” Whelp.
So? the FBI has been hunting card-carriers since the get-go.
See "Red Hunting in the Promised Land" by Joel Kovel.
The "hunt" is far more like a religious mania than a measure to protect "American Values", which, if they are all they are cracked up to be, we wouldn't worry about communists because their superiority (American Values) would be immediately evident to all.
Communists are duplicitous. They bore into non-communist Leftist organizations or establish front organizations. Social democrats like Sidney Hook knew this and perceived them as a potential threat at the time. This threat included espionage. We can see all this with the woke movement. Many anti-woke folks can see the “superiority of American values” but we also see that many Leftist elites have been captured by this ideology because the centrists were asleep at the wheel (or cowardly).
What kind? Stalinists, Maoists, or the honest citizens brought before the HUAC by McCarthy? I'd advise to stop using the word since its meaning has been lost in the mist of the good-guys vs. bad-guys Weltanschauung.
“What kind? Stalinists, Maoists, or the honest citizens brought before the HUAC by McCarthy? I'd advise to stop using the word since its meaning has been lost in the mist of the good-guys vs. bad-guys Weltanschauung.”
McCarthy wasn’t part of HUAC. Also, many of the “honest citizens” you refer to, like the Hollywood Ten, were Stalinists and were required to lie about their affiliations by the CPUSA/Moscow. Some members of the Ten admitted all this later when they had left the party. See _Red Star Over Hollywood_ by ex-commie Ron Radosh.
I propose that from now on anytime Joseph McCarthy is brought up we should think how we would feel if the question he was asking were instead, 'Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Nazi Party?'
Communism has killed more people and destroyed more of the world than fascism ever did yet it remains fashionable and people make excuses for it.
Just the other day Sec. State Blinken said,
“Every single place that this Wagner group has gone, death, destruction and exploitation have followed.”
and he came close to following up with
"But everywhere we go, peace, democracy, prosperity and justice prevail."
Well to be fair Wagner only goes to warzones. Blinken and Nuland and the whole neocon crew brings death, destruction and exploitation to previously peaceful locales. Not particularly trying to defend Wagner or paint them in rosy colors but they go to warzones to fight. They don't pretend to be humanitarians bringing the light of civilization and wonderfulness and then stir up coups and such.
What, the kind of communists that propose "ownership of the means of production by the workers"?
You won't convince me the Sacklers are of that flavor!
So what kind of communists are you talking about?
You know, historically whenever a government allows a great many of their citizens to live in poverty, destitute and with little hope of escape, those citizens will seek out whatever relieves their day to day suffering and perceptions of meaninglessness. Even when the "whatever" is self-destructive such as alcohol, opiates, ...
The Sacklers did over-promote their product, this is the nature of capitalism. But the people who I would have punished are the neoliberal geniuses who made of blue-collar middle America a hollowed-out shell of its former industrial strength and prosperity.
Oops, I guess that comment makes me a "communist".
“Hollowed out” is hyperbole. Americans are far richer now than in the 1970s. Neoliberalism is far superior to mercantilism and the sclerotic welfare state.
That last paragraph is a bombshell. Wow.
Thank you!