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Rich Helppie The Common Bridge's avatar

What constituency supports the politicians putting these policies in place?

Gerald Posner's avatar

It gets lost in a sea of other political issues. A small group pushes this activism and most people are unaware of the policies and the potential long term ramifications.

Tina Stolberg's avatar

Another disastrous bill written by Scott Weiner. He truly lives up to his name.

MarkS's avatar

It's been copied by most blue states.

Tina Stolberg's avatar

It’s a club.

That TERF Owl 🇺🇸's avatar

It’s the policy of federal prisons, too, since the Obama administration (Trump shelved the rule but Biden restored it)

MarkS's avatar

Which is reason enough for me to vote for Trump over Biden in November.

Christopher Petersen's avatar

This is just insane! Fake “women” who are biological males say they are women just get transferred into a biologic women’s prison where they can commit sexual assault and CDC has no idea because they don’t track this.

Navy SeeBee's avatar

This is crazy! What if these men rape these women in prison?

QX's avatar

They don't care. If women or girls get raped or hurt by this movement, then women and girl must just suck it up because according to their oppression hierarchy men pretending to b women re more "oppressed".

Navy SeeBee's avatar

No. The women will more likely will have to ban together and shank them a couple of times in the right spot. It's bad enough that my fellow African-American women get a bad reputation. Now, it's women in prison that is on the same level that is going to be put in crossfire of these so-called "Trans woman" who isn't trans at all.

That TERF Owl 🇺🇸's avatar

It’s already happening. It seems like nothing will change until (maybe?) one of these psychos kills an incarcerated woman, and even then I’m not sure. The thing is —my understanding is that men in prison are litigious by nature—and now they have the ACLU ready to back them up to be in women’s prisons. I’ve listened to Amie Ichikawa (mentioned in the piece), and it’s been harder to get women to sue the prisons. I think that could change. There’s a federal lawsuit in CA on behalf of incarcerated women affected by the law Newsom signed, SB132, that put men in women’s prison.

That TERF Owl 🇺🇸's avatar

Examples:

Riker’s https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/transgender-rikers-inmate-gets-7-years-for-raping-female-prisoner/

Different case at Riker’s (notice they say a man PRETENDING to be a woman… like, how is that different and how can we tell? It’s the No True Scotsman of trans bullshit). https://nypost.com/2024/01/24/metro/man-posing-as-trans-woman-raped-female-prisoner-at-rikers-lawsuit/

Ohio: https://reduxx.info/trans-identified-male-accused-in-jailhouse-rape-of-female-cellmate/

Washington state: https://www.nationalreview.com/news/male-inmate-sexually-assaulted-female-in-washington-womens-prison-former-guard-says/

Etc.

This piece is not about an assault, but an interview with a woman in a New Jersey prison and the effects of a 6’7” man being incarcerated with her. Most women in prison are survivors of rape, almost 90% according to the Vera Institute of Justice, by multiple men through their lives. This woman was a victim of incest starting at 5. A lot of women sexually abused from childhood end up involved with drugs and crime (mentioned in the piece). It pisses me off to no end that Democrats are doing this to women without means. https://reduxx.info/a-wave-of-fear-incarcerated-sexual-abuse-survivor-condemns-male-transfers-to-womens-prison/

Dave's avatar

If you truly believe that trans women (aka men) should be allowed to compete against biological women in most sports or that they belong in women's prisons then you are either cognitively impaired or intellectually dishonest.

MarkS's avatar

Or a Democrat holding elected office.

That TERF Owl 🇺🇸's avatar

I will never forgive the Democrats who make excuses for this stuff. They care more about reflexively hating anything the GOP says than they do about vulnerable incarcerated women. The best argument, and also the worst, I get when talking about this with Dems online is: prison guards rape women prisoners, too. The “What’s a Little More Rape?” Argument.

That TERF Owl 🇺🇸's avatar

It’s truly shocking, and it’s happened often.

Dave's avatar

if you are a trans woman there are a few things that you need to understand. First of all is that you are still a man because you can't change your biological sex. It's okay to dress any way you wish and to adopt any superficial, stereotypical attributes of women that you desire. Live your life. No one should care, I certainly don't. However, because women are entitled to be treated fairly and to enjoy privacy from men there are certain things that are prohibited to you and me because we are men. You can't compete against women in most sports because it would be unfair. You can't go into women's private places like restrooms and locker rooms because that would make them feel unsafe. Finally, if you are a criminal you certainly can't be imprisoned with women.

That's it, just like me.

John Robert's avatar

Within living memory, Mississippi was "dry", liquor sales prohibited statewide. A "wet" governor finally succeeded in persuading the legislature to repeal the law with a comically ironic measure: he began vigorously 𝘦𝘯𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘤𝘪𝘯𝘨 prohibition in the state. I'd propose an attack on this profoundly evil and stupid policy on housing supposedly trans inmates in an analogous way except that the cost in women's lives and safety would be way too high.