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DB's avatar
Nov 17Edited

Sounds like he heard you. News this morning says Trump will release them. We'll see soon, what that means.

Truth is that both Democrats and Republican administrations have had access to the files and both have blocked this.

Several possibilities. Either there is a massive risk to both parties, enough to worry about themselves making the risk too high to not use them to attack the other side.

Another is that Epstein was doing a lot of dirty work for various intelligence or other government agencies that would cause harm and/or serious embarrassment.

Then there's the likely complication that these involve people or interests of close allies that would harm relationships.

More likely, some of all of the above.

However, the speculation that there's still information being held back is unlikely to go away. A good conspiracy story is much more interesting than the truth. The endless JFK story is just one great example.

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Melissa R.'s avatar

There is no way to know if some of the files have been disappeared.

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bhs66's avatar

The “Epstein files” are much more than him providing underage girls to powerful people. That wasn’t the main business of Epstein. Aiding foreign governments in illegal weapons shipments, participating in various intelligence community dealings with foreign governments, being involved with the very worst foundations such as Soros’ Open Society, Gates, Rockefeller, Ford, Carnegie, CIA, Mossad, MI6, et al doing all manner of nefarious activities in third world countries.

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Christopher Clark's avatar

Care to provide any links for these conspiracy theories?

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bhs66's avatar

Try Mike Benz, you might learn something.

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bhs66's avatar

Only a moron would believe and cite NBC News! as a more credible source on anything related to government corruption than Mike Benz. Good luck.

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Christopher Clark's avatar

This fake news also you kumquat?

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bhs66's avatar

Only a dipshit like you Christopher citing NBC News or Brandy Zadrozny or UK Independent news would have the utter lack of self awareness and hutzpah to actually accuse others of reading or citing “fake news” you are a moron but amazingly you don’t know it.

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Christopher Clark's avatar

He’s a Trump appointed, Trump apologist, Trump justifying CONSERVATIVE!

Why in the hell am I going to listen to a clown spewing partial truths intentionally missing the entire forest in order to advance another version of Trump lunacy?

Now go after Chomsky!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/noam-chomsky-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-a7438526.html

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bhs66's avatar

Look Christopher you just cited a Brandy Zadrozny article from nbc news, you’re a typical gullible wokester with TDS. Now Chomsky! He’s a fanboy and friend of Epstein while he’s talking to al jezira about voting for Hillary Clinton! The Independent is a British left wing rag. You’re a poorly read idiot who reads and believes things on nbc news and other left wing garbage. Try getting out of the house, take a walk and try thinking of anything other than Donald Trump, you and your four subscribers will be happier. Now go fuck off somewhere else with that bullshit!

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Christopher Clark's avatar

Greenwald and Taibbi?

Greenwald who was on board with GWB’s Iraq War and is vouching for Michael Flynn and Taibbi who has to grift off you people because he’s a serial sexual harasser?

Maybe he’ll sue me too?

You were a doctor?

lol

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Christopher Clark's avatar

TDS?

Calling an obvious clown a clown isn’t being deranged because of Trump you dumb cunt.

It’s wondering how in the hell people can be stupid enough to be in this shithead’s cult.

So GFY and jerk it to fat orange treacherous freak.

GFY!

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Philanthropy Poketwanus's avatar

“Full disclosure” is an oxymoron?

Reality is broken.

Let’s build a new world based on humanity NOT Moloch.

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Victor James Trumper's avatar

Something happened with H.R. 4405

That bill was supposed to release the classified/sealed documents implicating Trump. Now they are not going to release those classified/sealed files.

Trump and his international pedophile network are going to claim that all the files have been released. This is going to end up being the big coverup Trump needed.

I knew something was wrong when the republican guardians of the pedophiles voted for it that bill all of a sudden.

I don’t know why Ro Khanna changed that bill last minute but that bill is not going to have anything implicating Trump released.

I was tricked by Ro Khanna’s stupidity at first. He was telling everyone that once his bill received the majority vote it would require the DOJ to release the sealed files incriminating Trump. I found out the president could veto the bill which would then require 292 house votes and 67 senate votes to pass into law. Ro Khanna decided to remove the part of the bill that would release the sealed documents incriminating Trump. That caused essentially all the republicans to vote for the bill.

Everyone has to make a big deal about this. Otherwise this is going to be exactly what Trump needed to clear his name.

The Democrats want those sealed files released. Make sure you vote for Democrat representatives in 2026.

OTHERWISE TRUMP AND HIS CORRUPT NETWORK WILL CONTINUE THEIR DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA

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Linda H Oistad's avatar

The delay of releasing the Epstein files makes me recall moments in spy stories where a person from one camp says to the person from the opposing camp, "I think you will find we work for the same people."

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Vaughn Svendsen's avatar

So much for grand jury testamony being sealed.

This just shows that if a case becomes highly politicized then the safeguards are discarded.

Yet, it is exactly in highly politicized situations that safeguards should be maintained.

Rumors of guilt by association are likely to increased rather than diminished by the release of the documents.

Let the witch trials begin.

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Christopher Petersen's avatar

Let’s see where this goes. Obviously news has updated with Trump saying to release all the files. Both sides of the aisle are in agreement to releasing all. So there should be zero reason for delays, except the intelligence agencies. The mere fact that if that were to occur then there is an “aha” moment. The only thing that should be redacted are the victim information

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Sandy Rosenthal's avatar

Every post that Gerald. Posner writes contains one of more absolute gems. As usual, Mr Posner just delivered again. Yes, we do know that "delay only inflames the belief that someone powerful is being protected." But here's Mr. Posner's inciteful gem. "Keeping secrets in the age of weaponized speculation is impossible." So correct. Imagination, guesses, speculation can now be weaponized. That's key. Thank you for saying it.

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Mary Hartman's avatar

I absolutely, 100% agree! This will not silence that percentage of the population that refuses to acknowledge how Hillary Clinton and then Barack Obama perpetrated the Russia hoax, and now rabidly insist that President Trump was a primary participant in Epstein's sordid and despicable affairs. They make any and every issue about Trump. It's exhausting.

There are times when human decency needs to rise above politics and this is one of those times. There should be no rock for the participants in Epstein's sex trafficking to hide under, and this distraction with all things Trump needs to stop so EVERYONE gets the attention they deserve.

It's not enough to release the Epstein files. It's not enough to run DOGE numbers to show us how much has been stolen and how much waste and fraud exists in the system. It's not enough for the FBI to issue a press release telling us organized crime has infiltrated our renewable energy sector - as if it's an engagement announcement. DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL ABOUT IT. ALL OF IT.

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Christopher Clark's avatar

Thank you Squeaky Fromme!

First off, Trump was OPENLY colluding with Russia and he’s STILL DOING IT in broad daylight.

How else can one assess Trump’s assertion that Ukraine started the war with Russia?

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Alkery's avatar

😂

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Mary Hartman's avatar

Eye roll. Read the files and emails outside of your echo chamber. I'm no fan of DJT but it's obvious that the entire thing was orchestrated.

You may also want to explore US foreign policy. It's incredibly hypocritical and dirty. What you choose to call collusion because it is Trump and only because it is Trump is considered "trade" or "international discussions" when done by nearly any other official. The hatred for this man is irrational.

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Christopher Clark's avatar

Trump saying that Zelenskyy started the war is international discussions?

I get it, you’re buying the Taibbi grift!

I saw I was billed another $5 by that guy who sold his soul!

Stop the idolatry with these people.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/noam-chomsky-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-a7438526.html

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Mary Hartman's avatar

I’m continually astonished to see that people who appear to be intelligent have not yet figured out that they should focus more on what Trump does and less on what he says. The man says a lot of things….

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Christopher Clark's avatar

It’s all bad.

What’s your point?

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