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Jeff Keener's avatar

But let's not be coy. The Palestinians have been waging a war of genocide on the Jews for more than 75 years. They are only capable of doing it in relatively small attacks on innocent children and unarmed adults and, of course, with their crude rockets. The attack on the kibbutzes on 10/7 is probably the most that they could ever pull off and of course, it was committed on innocent, mostly unarmed teenagers and young adults. Vicious, horrifying, and depraved, it's still about the most they could do.

On the other hand, the IDF is committing a "genocide" on Hamas and justly, so. It's more than clear that virulent, colonialist islamism will never tolerate a Jewish state in the Jewish homeland. It's the same with our grandfathers clearing out the last of the Nazis in Europe. Necessary for civilization to resume.

Matt Osborne's avatar

“the experts have ruled” = "the science is settled"

For me, the ultimate test of definitions is Indonesia. Somewhere between 500,000 and 1,000,000 communists and other leftists were killed from 1966-1967. I studied the entire English-language historiography that was available, and if communists and leftists were considered an ethnic group, the killings would absolutely be considered genocide. BUT! Even a ridiculous genocide "scholar" like Michael Mann admits the difficulty of defining the mass murders of a million people this way, preferring the term "politicide" instead. That's because in a nation of thousands of ethnicities, no single group contained all the communists.

So my very first test for anyone who says that Gaza is a genocide is to ask them to explain how the deaths of one million Indonesians is not considered a genocide while the deaths of 20,000 civilians in Gaza somehow qualifies for the title. So far, not one self-styled "genocide scholar" on X has been able to explain it. Hardly anyone I ask has ever even heard about the mass killings in Indonesia. You would think the global left would talk about it more, but they do not, and that is because the whole thing started with communists killing people.

They don't want to talk about it because the left comes across as guilty and deserving, even if the response was disproportionate. Weird how that doesn't work with Hamas. I guess Suharto could get away with it because he wasn't Jewish?

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